Thought Leadership Interview: Sue Hay and Cari Baldwin Expand on Their Demand Generation Trifecta

August 31st, 2010

We’d all like to have the knowledge to supercharge our demand generation programs. In their section of The Quintessential Marketing Automation Guidebook, Sue Hay and Cari Baldwin discussed the importance of knowing your buyers and helping them get to know you through demand generation programs executed with marketing automation tools. I caught up with Sue and Cari recently and asked them to answer a few more questions about their demand generation trifecta—Right Message, Right Offer, Right Audience.

CD: Your Tip 5, “The Website is the Lead Generator,” talks about the need to ensure your website is providing education-rich content. What are some methods you’ve seen companies use to create more conversions from their websites?

Sue:Sue Hay
For prospects who have indicated their interest in a company’s products or services, smart marketing and sales team are focusing not just on the prospects themselves, but the problems they are trying to solve.  Showing that you truly understand a potential customer’s business and its challenges is the surest way to gain their confidence.  Of course, it’s not enough just to understand the challenges – you need to provide a solution.  Using email, banner ads, direct marketing, tweets, etc., the marketing and sales teams drive prospects to specific landing pages that provide education-rich content and with the aim of converting their status from either cold or unknown to warm.

At a more technically complex level, when prospects are unknown (i.e., they haven’t completed a registration form), they can still be located by identifying IP addresses used to access relevant pages. Based on their interests, dynamic content is pushed to the web page they are currently visiting.

For example, DemandBase has a tool that resolves the business identity of website traffic.  It identifies information about the firm -- company name, annual revenue, number of employees, industry, even the office location of the IP address.  It can then determine if the visitor is new to the web site, an existing customer or a highly desirable target account.

With this information at hand, relevant content can be pushed to the prospect instantaneously, which generally leads to higher click-through and conversion rates. Then that information is passed into your marketing automation tool so the prospects can be added to a relevant lead-nurturing program that has content specifically designed to suit their needs.

CD: What are some effective methods for encouraging sales to return disqualified leads to marketing for nurturing?

Cari BaldwinCari:  We encourage marketing and sales to create a Service Level Agreement (SLA) for the time that each lead stays at a stage (our mantra – stale is not a lead status!).  If you agree that a lead should be at the active stage for 45 days, after that time it either moves to pipeline or back to marketing.  Giving them an alternative to disqualify leads and return them to nurturing is going to produce future opportunities.

Sue:
Basically, there has to be a dialogue between sales and marketing to be sure there is a clear understanding of each other’s objectives.  Once objectives are understood, you can create a plan.

Trust between teams is also essential. There needs to be a frank exchange about what’s working and what’s not.  You also need clear ground rules for the engagement.  Only then can you create business processes which will move the sales engagement forward.

On a process level, there are many different techniques that would enable the sales team to return leads that are not sales-ready.  One might be to add “Needs nurturing” to the “Status” field of the lead in the company’s CRM system.  A report would be created by marketing that captures those leads and places them in a nurturing program.

Another process could be a lead scoring program, in which components tell both marketing and sales that a lead is not yet ready or is currently disqualified and needs nurturing.

CD: In your section, you provide a list of what marketing automation is not. What do you think is the biggest fallacy about marketing automation that marketers buy into and how would you dispel it?

Sue:  There are two things that constitute the biggest fallacy about marketing automation:  one is that it’s easy-to-use and the other is that it automates everything.  This leads to the false notion that marketing automation must make things easier.

Marketing automation tools are not a panacea for a marketing department trying to have more impact on the bottom line. As the name indicates, they are tools --they need to be programmed, and require time to produce results. What they don’t do is create a process. If you have a solid process in place, then the tool can be very effective.

But before you even begin with a marketing automation tool, you need to develop a rapport between sales and marketing.  You need to identify the lead management process, including a loop for constant feedback.  You also need to be able to qualify and score leads, and place them in nurture programs that are truly committed to bringing them along. Without all of that, a marketing automation tool will just be an expensive auto responder.

Cari:  I agree with Sue. The biggest misconception about a marketing automation tool is that it’s fast and easy.  Most marketing departments lack extra time and resources therefore marketing automation is added to an already overflowing “to do” list.  To effectively optimize an implementation, there are four steps:

  1. integration
  2. building the assets
  3. rolling it out to the organization
  4. enhancing the functionality

Most companies get to step 2, which is where they get stuck just using it as an email marketing tool.  To effectively roll it out to an organization (change management) and to enhance the functionality (lead nurturing, scoring) requires process development and hard work.

Christopher Doran

How to Incorporate Social Media with Lead Nurturing Programs

August 26th, 2010

Social media is that shiny new object that many marketers are rushing to include as a component of their marketing mix. In fact, research shows the budget investments in social media are growing at a steady clip. The good news is that social media is a tool that can wield a lot of power for marketers, if incorporated into their content marketing strategy, not implemented in a stand-alone fashion.

One thing that helps accomplish this is to shift the belief that nurturing is defined by email campaigns. It certainly doesn’t have to be. When you consider that nurturing is really defined by consistent communication and engagement over the course of the buying process, then social media becomes a natural fit. Blogs are also a natural extension to nurturing programs.

Consider that if your blog posts are aligned with your email campaigns—covering the same content themes—then your blog becomes an extension of those campaigns, offering the leads you know about the exposure to more of the information they’re interested in, as well as the prospects you’ve not yet identified.

When you release a new, meatier content asset—think white paper, research report or eBook—sharing its availability through social networks with a link to the landing page can yield new leads. The same is true for the next webinar you host. Including the capability for your known leads to share your content via social networks also allows them to spread your content to new audiences—likely similar to them.

Marketing automation systems provide numerous capabilities that enhance what marketers can accomplish when they integrate social media with their nurturing programs.

Here are a few examples:

  • The ability to identify anonymous website visitors that social media participation attracts to your content and then entice them to opt in with an offer related to the one that initially caught their attention.
  • The ease of drag and drop editing for the creation of landing pages and forms for content offers that can then be shared via social networks to expand reach—without the need for IT assistance.
  • Subscription management that builds credibility and trust by allowing your potential leads to let you know their preferences for frequency of communications and subject matter preferences. By letting them choose, you’re demonstrating respect for their time and attention, as well as reducing the friction of indecision that comes when they don’t know what to expect from you.
  • Lead scoring that includes blog post visits to monitor your prospects’ true interest intensity through their interactions with content beyond what’s available on your corporate website.

Social media has proven difficult to measure. However, when incorporated with your nurturing efforts through the application of capabilities provided by your marketing automation system, measurement and proof of value become more manageable tasks with higher pay offs for marketers.

Christopher Doran

Thought Leadership Interview: Jep Castelein Provides Tips on Improving Lead Nurturing Programs

August 24th, 2010

Jep Castelein - LeadSloth

The 6 Steps Jep Castelein shared in his section of The Quintessential Marketing Automation Guidebook discussed how to find untapped revenue in your lead database. Building higher engagement to increase the momentum it takes to deliver qualified leads to the sales team is a critical component for marketing performance. Given the interest we’ve seen for this section of the guide, I decided to follow-up with Jep and ask him a few more questions to expand on the six steps he’s already revealed.

CD: What are the most important questions marketers can ask salespeople when designing nurturing campaigns?

JC: Sales people can help you find out:

  • how to define a "qualified lead"
  • the questions and objections you need to address in your lead nurturing campaigns
  • the information that should be included for new leads

Q1: "How do you qualify your leads?" or "How would you describe your best leads?"

It is important that Marketing and Sales agree on the definition of a qualified lead. These questions are to find out how sales people qualify their leads. Often, this is an intuitive process, so you may have to help sales people with making their qualification process more explicit.

Q2: "What are the typical questions and objections that you hear from leads?"

Leads often have the same questions and objections during the buying process. Marketing can speed up the buying process by addressing this in the nurturing campaigns. Sales people can tell you the most frequently asked questions and the most common objections.

Q3: "What information would you like to get on new leads?"

With Marketing Automation technology, we can collect a lot of information on leads. For example: how they found out about your company, how often they visited your website, which emails they responded to, and so on. Tell your sales people about these options, and ask them to prioritize the list.

CD: In your section, you discuss making offers that prospects can’t refuse. Have you found there are specific indications of the ideal time to insert conversion events into lead nurturing campaigns? Can you offer several example scenarios?
JC: That's a great question. There is this fine balance between offering great education content, and featuring your company’s expertise and solutions. The first recommendation is to refrain from inserting promos in your education content. That contaminates the content, and makes readers feel that it's one big advertisement.

However, there are several options that strike a good balance between content and promo. The first one is to add offers to content, but keep them separate from the content, just like ads are separate from editorial content in newspapers. For example, if you promote a blog article in a nurturing email, put a small promo below the article, clearly separated from the article itself.

You can also mix content and educations emails, such as sending one promotional email for each three educational emails. Depending on your business, you may find that another ratio works better for you. Monitor the click rates and unsubscribe rates to find the right ratio.

If you want to make sure that prospects only get offers when they are already interested in your organization, you may want to monitor the prospect’s activity level. You then wait on sending offers until a lead has reached a certain activity level. That is something you can usually measure with the lead scoring functionality in your Marketing Automation system.

CD: How do you recommend that marketers re-start dormant leads with a lead nurturing program? Are there a few specifics you can share about how to lessen the abruptness of communicating with leads who haven’t heard from your company for a period of time?

JC: The challenge with dormant leads is that many of them will have forgotten that they ever registered to receive email. If you just add them to your a new email campaign, most of them will think it is spam. That is true even for educational campaigns. Therefore, you will have to regain their permission.

In the many reactivation campaigns that I've worked on, being totally transparent has always worked best. Start your new campaign with an email message that says:

  • You have been on our email list since 2009, but we haven't sent you email in a long time
  • We have created an education email series on ...
  • Before we start sending those emails, we wanted make sure you want to receive them
  • If not, please let us know, and we'll take you off the list immediately

The more specifics you have on the date and reason for joining the list, the better. Use the personalization features of your Marketing Automation system to be very specific, for example:

"Hi Jon, in August 2009 you attended our webinar "Acme Product Overview", but we haven't been in touch with you in a long time."

Also, make the email look like it was sent from Outlook: plain formatting and no images. The "from" address should include both the name of an individual within your organization, as well as the company name. For example: "Peter Pan - Acme Corp". If you want, even put an email signature in the message. By the way: because this message looks like a personal message, people may reply to it. Make sure to answer those replies in a timely manner.

Christopher Doran