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Interview: Craig Rosenberg Dishes on the Details of Successful Demand Generation

Friday, April 8th, 2011

In b2b marketing, effective demand generation requires more than just getting your prospects to respond to one or two emails and then passing them off to your sales team – it’s about constantly being in front of your prospects with the right message at the right time. Statistics show that the average number of touch points it takes to propel a prospect into action is between 3 and 7. Marketing automation enables you to automatically provide relevant content to your prospects on a consistent basis for improved demand generation results.

In the Lead Nurturing Cookbook, we offer a recipe for supercharging your demand generation using your marketing automation platform. Craig Rosenberg, Vice President of Products and Services at Focus and author of the award-winning blog The Funnelholic, participated as an “Expert Chef” on this recipe offering marketers insight on how to make it even more of a sales team crowd-pleaser. I asked Craig if he could offer us just a little more insight into how to build and execute effective demand generation campaigns. Here’s what he had to say:

EM: What metrics should marketers track to determine if their demand generation campaigns are successful?

CR: Before I answer that, I must first jump on my soapbox. This may be controversial, but I believe that marketers should be judged by the metrics that they can control.  I realize that ultimately everyone’s goals should be revenue, but there are a lot of factors that determine whether deals close, such as the effectiveness of the sales team or the competitiveness of the product.  So while the conversations I am hearing at conferences and online center around marketers being judged by closed business, I stand firm that marketers should provide and be judged by opportunities, whereas sales should be judged on closing those opportunities.  I answered this question in the past on Focus.com.

The metrics I recommend to marketers for their demand generation campaigns:

  • Cost-per-opportunity: For every opportunity created, how much did we spend?  Formula: Total marketing costs/number of opportunities
  • Sales pipeline created: How much pipeline did we build from this campaign? Formula: Total sales pipeline (in the form or potential revenue) created by leads from your campaign
  • Lead-to-opportunity conversion rate: At what rate are my leads turning into opportunities? Formula: Number of leads/number of opportunities
  • Conversion rate after one month: How many leads are converting after one month?  I call this the “lead nurturing” metric.    Formula: Number of leads/number of opportunities for all leads more than one month old
  • ROI: Yes, I began by ranting against ROI — but I also know that we can’t avoid the closed business metrics.  For me, ROI is defined as “how much closed business was created from the campaign.”  We have to look at it; but not just to judge the marketers, as this should judge sales and other variables that either make it harder or easier to close business.  One tip:  Make sure you set the expectation that this metric is not be measured immediately.  Calculate ROI after an ample amount of time: Take the average sales cycle and add one to two months before you calculate.  Formula:  Closed business generated from leads from the campaign

EM: How is demand generation different from lead generation?

CR: Personally I struggle with this question all the time.  I watched the conversation on Focus.com diligently to help me solidly formulate my opinion on this. First of all, people use the terms interchangeably, and I really don’t mind. Here is my take:

  • Lead Generation: First of all, lead generation is part of demand generation. The goal of lead generation: to generate a lead. Very simple, right? The lead definition is predefined and the associated activities and strategies are focused on generating the leads.
  • Demand Generation: The efforts in demand generation are much more expansive and include branding, thought leadership, sales enablement, advertising, PR, and so forth. I think with my definition, the real question is what is the difference between demand generation and marketing?

EM: What role does social media play in demand generation and how can you incorporate that into your strategy?

CR: I have another soapbox rant here: Social media is an important part of demand generation, but do not let it distract you from basic blocking and tackling of demand generation. Let’s face it, marketers get distracted by the bright, shiny new objects, and social media is just that — bright and shiny.

That being said, social media is an absolutely vital aspect of your lead generation strategy. The important thing is to realize social media is another channel. The traditional channels for b2b marketers are phone and email. Now, you MUST add social to the mix. Each channel supports the other. Here is a simple example: You have an upcoming webinar which you will email your prospects, create an event page on Facebook, tweet about the event, call your best prospects, and so forth. The best marketing organizations leverage all channels, not just one. You know why? Because every buyer is unique.  Some people check email, some answer their phone, and believe it or not, some people are NOT on Twitter. (I know that for those of us in marketing, that is hard to believe — but it’s true.)

EM: How can using a marketing automation platform improve demand generation results?

CR: This is very simple; there are two major points:

  1. Marketing automation allows you to manage and execute lead nurturing. For me, marketing automation has driven the lead nurturing movement, which may save marketers from extinction. Instead of being stuck with trying to drive immediate ROI from every campaign, we can justify our efforts over time. Heck, lead nurturing may even save live trade shows! The numbers aren’t lying: Companies executing always-on lead nurturing campaigns leveraging marketing automation are getting their ROI.
  2. Marketing automation allows you to track and optimize your efforts. Marketing automation helps you actually see what’s working and what's not working.  In the past, we did one of two things during campaigns: We either showed everyone our “cool” design, or we blamed sales for not following up, but we NEVER could figure out if what we were doing was working.  Now, we can manage an entire chain of events and optimize every step of the way.

EM: In the lead nurturing cookbook, we talk about the importance of planning for what happens after your lead takes a call-to-action like downloading a piece of collateral. Can you explain how to incorporate that follow-up into your lead nurturing process and give an example of a time when you’ve seen it used effectively?

CR: There’s couple points that I would like to make here. One mistake I see a lot of marketers make is thinking that the nurturing process is about to getting a prospect to take the call-to-action instead of looking at it from the top of the funnel all the way to the point when Sales converts the opportunity into a sale. So a lot of times where I see a breakdown is when, marketing says, “Hey, I got the call to action. We’re done.” And that’s a fail. Lead nurturing includes planning for what you do after you receive the call-to-action.

My second tip is to consider the phone as an integrated part of your demand generation and lead nurturing processes. If they’ve taken a call-to-action that tells you it’s worth engaging them, the best thing to do is to call them–use the phone. This could set off debate, but everyone asks me for what I see that works, and that’s it. I see it from the best lead nurturing companies in the world— they’re incorporating the phone.

Craig is the Vice President of Products and Services at Focus where he oversees product creation, management, and delivery. He is also the author of the popular b2b sales and marketing blog, the Funnelholic.  He is known as an expert in b2b sales marketing across the entire funnel from demand generation to overall marketing to sales process and organization.

 

 

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Jeff Erramouspe

Thought Leadership Interview: Sue Hay and Cari Baldwin Expand on Their Demand Generation Trifecta

Tuesday, August 31st, 2010

We’d all like to have the knowledge to supercharge our demand generation programs. In their section of The Quintessential Marketing Automation Guidebook, Sue Hay and Cari Baldwin discussed the importance of knowing your buyers and helping them get to know you through demand generation programs executed with marketing automation tools. I caught up with Sue and Cari recently and asked them to answer a few more questions about their demand generation trifecta—Right Message, Right Offer, Right Audience.

CD: Your Tip 5, “The Website is the Lead Generator,” talks about the need to ensure your website is providing education-rich content. What are some methods you’ve seen companies use to create more conversions from their websites?

Sue:Sue Hay
For prospects who have indicated their interest in a company’s products or services, smart marketing and sales team are focusing not just on the prospects themselves, but the problems they are trying to solve.  Showing that you truly understand a potential customer’s business and its challenges is the surest way to gain their confidence.  Of course, it’s not enough just to understand the challenges – you need to provide a solution.  Using email, banner ads, direct marketing, tweets, etc., the marketing and sales teams drive prospects to specific landing pages that provide education-rich content and with the aim of converting their status from either cold or unknown to warm.

At a more technically complex level, when prospects are unknown (i.e., they haven’t completed a registration form), they can still be located by identifying IP addresses used to access relevant pages. Based on their interests, dynamic content is pushed to the web page they are currently visiting.

For example, DemandBase has a tool that resolves the business identity of website traffic.  It identifies information about the firm -- company name, annual revenue, number of employees, industry, even the office location of the IP address.  It can then determine if the visitor is new to the web site, an existing customer or a highly desirable target account.

With this information at hand, relevant content can be pushed to the prospect instantaneously, which generally leads to higher click-through and conversion rates. Then that information is passed into your marketing automation tool so the prospects can be added to a relevant lead-nurturing program that has content specifically designed to suit their needs.

CD: What are some effective methods for encouraging sales to return disqualified leads to marketing for nurturing?

Cari BaldwinCari:  We encourage marketing and sales to create a Service Level Agreement (SLA) for the time that each lead stays at a stage (our mantra – stale is not a lead status!).  If you agree that a lead should be at the active stage for 45 days, after that time it either moves to pipeline or back to marketing.  Giving them an alternative to disqualify leads and return them to nurturing is going to produce future opportunities.

Sue:
Basically, there has to be a dialogue between sales and marketing to be sure there is a clear understanding of each other’s objectives.  Once objectives are understood, you can create a plan.

Trust between teams is also essential. There needs to be a frank exchange about what’s working and what’s not.  You also need clear ground rules for the engagement.  Only then can you create business processes which will move the sales engagement forward.

On a process level, there are many different techniques that would enable the sales team to return leads that are not sales-ready.  One might be to add “Needs nurturing” to the “Status” field of the lead in the company’s CRM system.  A report would be created by marketing that captures those leads and places them in a nurturing program.

Another process could be a lead scoring program, in which components tell both marketing and sales that a lead is not yet ready or is currently disqualified and needs nurturing.

CD: In your section, you provide a list of what marketing automation is not. What do you think is the biggest fallacy about marketing automation that marketers buy into and how would you dispel it?

Sue:  There are two things that constitute the biggest fallacy about marketing automation:  one is that it’s easy-to-use and the other is that it automates everything.  This leads to the false notion that marketing automation must make things easier.

Marketing automation tools are not a panacea for a marketing department trying to have more impact on the bottom line. As the name indicates, they are tools --they need to be programmed, and require time to produce results. What they don’t do is create a process. If you have a solid process in place, then the tool can be very effective.

But before you even begin with a marketing automation tool, you need to develop a rapport between sales and marketing.  You need to identify the lead management process, including a loop for constant feedback.  You also need to be able to qualify and score leads, and place them in nurture programs that are truly committed to bringing them along. Without all of that, a marketing automation tool will just be an expensive auto responder.

Cari:  I agree with Sue. The biggest misconception about a marketing automation tool is that it’s fast and easy.  Most marketing departments lack extra time and resources therefore marketing automation is added to an already overflowing “to do” list.  To effectively optimize an implementation, there are four steps:

  1. integration
  2. building the assets
  3. rolling it out to the organization
  4. enhancing the functionality

Most companies get to step 2, which is where they get stuck just using it as an email marketing tool.  To effectively roll it out to an organization (change management) and to enhance the functionality (lead nurturing, scoring) requires process development and hard work.

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Christopher Doran

Spotlight: Sue Hay and Cari Baldwin Help You Supercharge Your Demand Generation Programs

Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010

Sue Hay

Sue Hay

Sue Hay, CEO of BeWhys Marketing, Inc, is passionate about helping clients create and execute demand generation campaigns that deliver real results. She is dedicated to using the latest and most appropriate technologies and practices – from marketing automation to lead nurturing, lead scoring and building personas – to help companies cost-effectively achieve their vision, reach their goals and grow their business.

Cari BaldwinCari Baldwin

Cari Baldwin, founding partner of BlueBird Strategies, focuses on building and executing strategic marketing and sales programs for clients. She is a seasoned demand generation professional, with skills in combining strategic thinking and creativity with a keen eye on results. She is a proven problem-solver, with a solid track record in demand creation, lead nurturing and lead management at companies such as Composite Software, E2open, Host Analytics, LiveOps, Saba and Workstream.

In their section, Supercharge Your Demand Generation with Marketing Automation, Sue and Cari provide a wealth of information that will help you address the many different facets of your marketing automation effectiveness. They start by making the distinction between lead generation and demand generation, setting the stage for the 8 tips they discuss to help you improve your marketing results.

Take a look at 8 Tips for Demand Generation Program Improvement:

  1. Define a Qualified Lead
  2. Develop Personas
  3. Enough About Me, Let’s Talk About Me
  4. Content is King
  5. The Website is the Lead Generator
  6. Know Your Conversion Rates
  7. Dumpster Diving for a Quick Win
  8. Push vs. Pull

These tips may sound like what you’ve heard before, but Sue and Cari make some unique observations that can help you further refine your demand generation efforts. Improving your execution of these 8 tips will help you capitalize on the marketing trifecta for demand generation success—Right Message, Right Offer, Right Audience.

Find out how by downloading your copy today.

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Jeff Erramouspe